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Jun 24, 2009



Although MindManager is a simple application in comparison to CAD/BIM) and had a modern code and document structure this tale of their Windows/Mac evolution might be of interest.


The Mac/Linux thing is irrelevant for me except I'd be annoyed to see development effort on the Windows versions be hindered (by diverted resource or technically)to accommodate Mac versions of the same app.

R. Paul Waddington

Ralph, I can remember a comment by by John Walker many years ago - when AutoCAD ran on several O/S - saying it was not Autodesk's role to decide which O/S a customer should buy.
Autodesk changed that game and went of in the Windows direction - dills!
We tackled the problems Windows presented by running AutoCAD under IBM's O/S2. AutoCAD ran like greased lighting compared to windows, it allowed us to run multiple sessions and several printers at the same time and not much different to the speed of DOS.
I wonder where we would be now if Autodesk had stuck to Walker's principle and paid more attention to just how far ahead O/S2 was in comparison to MS products even now!
We also ran UNIX versions using SCO and IBM's AIX - not great experiences in either case but Autodesk must still have that code somewhere ;-)


Mac users are obsessed with the user interface, so the GUI needs an extensive rewrite.

The user experience yes, the user interface, no (many people still happily prefer Carbon apps over their Windows counterparts). And Microsoft has been playing catch-up to Mac OS X on the technical side ever since Panther (six years ago!) came out. Not to mention the infinitely better put-together hardware.

John Gruber has had some fun over the years with the abysmally low user expectations that Microserfs have been condemned to from their poor copy of the Mac OS. The anti-Apple ragegasms from these poor condemned souls (Stockholm Syndrome?) is something to behold.

Norm C.

Welcome back Ralph!

Any idea if Bricsys is planning to open the Beta of Bricscad to the general public? I guess not. That would be great though.

Doug Dingus

I chuckle too! The movement toward Microsoft-Centric CAD came with a lot of risks, performance trade-offs and arguably marginal returns in actual productivity, apart from having things on one box.

Some CAD vendors maintained their commercial UNIX development trees and because of that, they are in a much better position today.

Even there Microsoft has done it's damage though. NX on Mac can operate with Excel, but only up to version 2004 because VB for applications was removed in later versions.

And Open Office sits there, perfectly ready and able to be integrated with CAD applications at a level probably not even possible with Microsoft because it's code is open.

Ship it on the CD, bundled with the CAD, call it a value add and forever eliminate that crutch I say.

Newer generation CAD companies embraced Microsoft whole hog. The 5 steps are not like the 5 healing steps, and quite likely just as painful and therapeutic.

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